There are
many spiritual teachers, guru’s, holy men and women, but also a lot of imposters and bhakti-guru’s (in for
the money). I have met many and interviewed many, see www.mindlift.tv or my www.youtube.com channel mindlift.
Some were impressive, most had some flaws in the realms of sex, drugs or money,
a very few walked their talk in real life.
As I have
been studying the way our psyche works, see www.lucsala.nl/psyche.htm and
developed a way to quantify the various dimensions and characteristics of our
mind and being, by dowsing, I thought it’s maybe worthwhile to compile A: a
list of the spiritual people I know and have met personally, usually interviewed
for some length of time and B: a list of historically important spiritual or
religious leaders and luminaries, see www.lucsala.nl/psyche.htm also.
The matrix
that follows contains a lot of numbers and might come across as a fairly complex
way to compare people. However, as there is not an easy way to describe a
person, as we are complex, multifaceted beings, I think that only a
multifaceted approach makes sense. Even in this extensive list I am limiting
the scope and therefore maybe overseeing important aspects like ESP, siddhi qualities, magnetism, healing capabilities etc.
The basis
of my approach is dowsing (pendulum). I am not starting from a clear definition
of the characterists (columns) but as the rating
progresses, some kind of understanding grows what for instance gurudom is, or consciousness, or openness. The
interpretation thus found or assumed, is certainly mine, as dowsing is always a
subjective act, but might serve others. Don’t get frightened by all the
numbers, just take an easy exaple, like comparing Amma and someone else you know in a dimension you kind of
know, like emotional. You probably know intuitively who is the “warmest”
personality and check the data given here with your own estimate. Thus you get
a feel for the numbers.
I use the
concept of multiple subpersonalities, indicated as P1
and P2 (sometimes there are more subpersonalities)
and I use the words ego, personality, shadow in the
most common sense. There are deviations, some call the Higher Self the Ego like
Alice Bailey, here I refer to the ego/personality as
the layer we developed in this lifetime, reacting or interacting with our
parents, upbringing and the expectations of society. This is usually what we
believe we are, the illusion we live.
P1 then stands
for our mask, ego, outer personality, the person we believe we are and act out
in normal life, but is actually a constructed defense
personality that developed over time since childhood, is not totally fixed but
can grow as we become more aware and can be adapted, honed and developed by
techniques like NLP and most psychotherapeutic approaches. Usually this P1 mask
does develop over our lifetime and in some cases becomes a fairly developed and
spiritual personality.
P2 stands
for our hidden, inner personality, sometimes called inner child. However, in
most of us, this inner child is a wounded child, traumatized and damaged by our
experiences, very often it has developed dark sides
and can therefore be called our shadow. However, the shadow or Lower Self is
just a layer over the deeper, inner self, sometimes called the Higher Self or
Essence, the inner being that we started
out with and usually has exceptional, if hidden qualities that we discover on
our path through life.
The P2 thus
is the wounded child, hidden in our psychic background, mostly subconscious and
showing her/himself only in times of stress, illness, despair, love, or in
dreams and in trance. That is the time that the problems of the wounded child
come to the surface, as negative thoughts but also as depressions and physical
illnesses. It is in our P2 state we can really work on our wounds and trauma’s,
mostly by accepting what we are, facing the shadow and not in denial of its
darker sides. Only then can the process of healing start, of coming closer to
the higher self or the essential inner child.
In fact, we
could indicate the essence or perfect inner child as a special subpersonality and call it P3 or something. However, very
few people have come close to being their essence, so it would be a rather
empty category. The development of the P2 gives adequate information about how
a person has developed, spiritually, and emotionally. Maybe it is interesting
to know, that some astrological systems like the HDS
(Human Design) make a clear
distinction between what they call Design and Personality, roughly equivalent
to P3 and P1 as used here.
I note
here, and explain in more detail in www.lucsala.nl/psyche.htm,
that the P1 and P2 are different in many respect, they share the same body and
brains, but use them in quite a different way. Intelligence, spiritual
development and even illnesses are different, mostly caused by the difference
in breath, as the breath is the deciding factor in how we distribute and guide
the life energy (sometimes called chi) in our body. The breath mode is what makes
us what we are, it is a pity that even advanced systems like the enneagram have not made this part of their teaching, but
any yoga adept can confirm how our breath is very important to what and how we
are.
The holy crowd, how are they different?
There are
many teachers, guru’s, masters and holy men we consider special. Special
because they have a special knowledge or wisdom, healing capabilities, they
make us feel better or whole, teach us essential
values or whatever. I am interested to see what makes these people special, in
what dimensions they have developed more or are at a higher level than the rest
of us. Now there are (see below) listings of guru’s with some commentaries, but
none very explicit, at best we see a subjective and fairly undifferentiated rating.
So I set out to make a more elaborate comparison, using a model with the P1 and
P2 mentioned above, and differentiating the emotional, aura, mental
(intelligence) and spiritual.
As it turns
out most holy men/women have liberated this inner child (P2) more than average
people, they usually have a higher P2 % score than average..
This has two aspects: they “are” in their inner child mode more (timewise) than average and have developed the inner child
to a higher degree. Not all of them, you will see some surprising low numbers
for some guru’s in their P2. For instance the 16 pops up for some, that’s the
sexual (nr 2) chakra indicating some unresolved issues there. But then, for
some that is an essential way to connect to their followers, as most people in
the West are kind of stuck in their second chakra, especially in their wounded
child. Osho had an SP2 of 16 and obviously used it to
turn on a generation in need for sexual freedom, to work out those blocks.
The numbers
are obtained by dowsing and have no specific meaning, except that I found out
that each chakra has a specific number, like 4 and 8 for the root chakra, 16
for the sex chakra, 43 for the hara/power/3th chakra and 60 for the heart. I
noted that people have surpassed the
I give
numbers for the various bodies, like auric/etheric
body (AU), emotional/astral body (EM or sometimes
emotional quotient), mental/intelligence body (IQ), the spiritual body and
then, in the blue section) some as yet fairly subjective dimensions that are
less defined like openness (OP), gurudom and the
broad description “consciousness”. I don’t pretend to know exactly what they mean, their meaning comes forth from the numbers. For
instance, gurudom seems to be a characteristic and somewhat
appropriate in their tradition of eastern teachers, when it shines through in
westerners it maybe less positive. Mastership is also
peculiar, as some highly developed teachers don’t score very high there, some
do, it feels it has to do with transference, the
direct exchange of love and truth. Openness is also peculiar, as it turns out
especially the psychedelic crowd developed that, again the definition of
openness has to follow from the data, not from the encyclopaedic notion. Consciousness
is what I now perceive as a general level of being, some kind of general mix of
all the others rolled into one.
As these
are, for the most part, living people, the numbers are not constant,
they change as the person goes through changes and daily life’s challenges. So
although I try to give consistent ratings, a kind of average, they may change.
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P2% |
SP1 |
SP2 |
EM1 |
EM2 |
AU1 |
AU2 |
MENT1 |
ME2 |
OP1 |
OP2 |
Consciousness |
G1 |
G2 |
M1 |
M2 |
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child/ |
spirituality |
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emotional |
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aura
body |
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IQ |
IQ |
openness |
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ousness |
gurudom |
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mastership |
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mask |
P1 |
P2 |
P1 |
P2 |
P1 |
P2 |
P1 |
P2 |
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P1 |
P2 |
P1 |
P2 |
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Albert
Hofmann |
45 |
120 |
160 |
170 |
210 |
105 |
120 |
136 |
134 |
610 |
550 |
110 |
1 |
0 |
42 |
56 |
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Alexander
Smit |
14 |
95 |
110 |
70 |
40 |
120 |
90 |
131 |
125 |
60 |
150 |
30 |
7 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
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Amma |
26 |
170 |
230 |
210 |
270 |
140 |
100 |
124 |
116 |
250 |
500 |
60 |
23 |
4 |
12 |
17 |
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Andrew
Cohen |
9 |
110 |
140 |
140 |
90 |
100 |
130 |
124 |
133 |
60 |
205 |
40 |
40 |
0 |
3 |
5 |
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Barry
Long |
6 |
120 |
160 |
120 |
130 |
90 |
105 |
126 |
124 |
40 |
130 |
20 |
9 |
4 |
1 |
4 |
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Byron
Katie |
10 |
120 |
210 |
110 |
160 |
110 |
130 |
122 |
133 |
120 |
170 |
15 |
10 |
3 |
3 |
21 |
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Dadi Janki (Brahma Kum) |
16 |
140 |
16 |
120 |
90 |
150 |
60 |
133 |
132 |
110 |
160 |
40 |
32 |
12 |
8 |
12 |
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Dalai
Lama |
7 |
95 |
105 |
140 |
110 |
160 |
90 |
134 |
118 |
160 |
140 |
10 |
30 |
14 |
1 |
2 |
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David
Steindl Rast |
1 |
250 |
22 |
150 |
120 |
100 |
180 |
139 |
134 |
220 |
420 |
50 |
1 |
8 |
20 |
40 |
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Deepak
Chopra |
7 |
110 |
120 |
180 |
90 |
100 |
110 |
137 |
134 |
210 |
320 |
5 |
60 |
12 |
1 |
2 |
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Gangaji |
16 |
125 |
205 |
220 |
110 |
105 |
160 |
126 |
143 |
120 |
190 |
5 |
20 |
50 |
6 |
65 |
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Isaac
Shapiro |
10 |
95 |
60 |
70 |
160 |
102 |
170 |
129 |
110 |
280 |
20 |
10 |
20 |
4 |
14 |
2 |
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Le
baaba Laetoli (kali) |
14 |
110 |
150 |
110 |
160 |
110 |
170 |
126 |
131 |
110 |
260 |
4 |
40 |
21 |
3 |
16 |
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Maharishi Mahesh Yogi |
22 |
300 |
500 |
160 |
310 |
250 |
420 |
144 |
124 |
320 |
170 |
110 |
40 |
8 |
50 |
70 |
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Pannikar |
30 |
600 |
550 |
240 |
290 |
115 |
140 |
140 |
132 |
105 |
190 |
130 |
2 |
3 |
60 |
50 |
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Pilot
Baba |
13 |
650 |
400 |
200 |
250 |
200 |
550 |
131 |
149 |
270 |
120 |
160 |
30 |
70 |
10 |
30 |
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Ra
Uru Hu (HDS) |
21 |
80 |
140 |
40 |
70 |
50 |
25 |
131 |
128 |
110 |
130 |
6 |
2 |
0 |
1 |
4 |
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Radha Burnier (Theosof) |
12 |
120 |
140 |
25 |
105 |
105 |
140 |
134 |
136 |
40 |
20 |
15 |
4 |
6 |
1 |
3 |
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Ram
Dass |
22 |
170 |
190 |
230 |
320 |
105 |
90 |
138 |
137 |
450 |
750 |
10 |
1 |
1 |
38 |
41 |
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Sogyal Rinpoche |
37 |
120 |
16 |
250 |
450 |
140 |
90 |
131 |
118 |
380 |
130 |
19 |
65 |
30 |
8 |
14 |
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Sri
Sri |
33 |
170 |
250 |
130 |
160 |
200 |
210 |
126 |
133 |
270 |
190 |
50 |
41 |
8 |
25 |
40 |
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Suhotra Swami |
16 |
170 |
310 |
100 |
180 |
160 |
550 |
136 |
133 |
230 |
120 |
60 |
9 |
2 |
12 |
22 |
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Tim
Leary |
4 |
60 |
16 |
140 |
190 |
60 |
110 |
136 |
134 |
410 |
600 |
20 |
40 |
2 |
1 |
3 |
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Ug. Krishnamurti |
25 |
120 |
95 |
150 |
300 |
105 |
130 |
141 |
128 |
140 |
85 |
30 |
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60 |
10 |
3 |
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The
methodology and psychological concepts I use are explained in www.lucsala.nl/psyche.htm
Luc Sala mailto:sala@dealerinfo.nl
June 18,
2007
If you want
to know more about these teachers and other guru’s or holy men see:
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/bodhisattva/gurulist.html
http://www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Ratings.htm